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cu ocazia condamnarii holocaustului

13.06.2003 – guvernul romaniei: “The discussions held on this topic have highlighted, in the final analysis, the position of the Romanian government: encouragement of research regarding the Holocaust in Europe while emphasizing the fact that, within the borders of Romania, there was no Holocaust between 1940-1945.”

iliescu cel milos nu precupeteste nici un efort in lupta pentru aflarea adevarului despre holocaustul care s-a intimplat in alte tari

yad vashem: The statement was harsh, given that Romania was the only ally of Nazi Germany that chose not send its Jews to extermination camps in Poland; instead they were killed by Romanian armed forces and police in the areas under its control, including occupied Ukrainian territory given to them by Hitler. The statement was all the more shocking as it coincided with the publication of a comprehensive study by Dr. Jean Ancel on the history of the Holocaust in Romania (Yad Vashem, 2003) which proves that 420,000 Jews were murdered in greater Romania and the areas under its control during the Holocaust (240,000 were Romanian citizens and 180,000 were from the Soviet Union; the study was also published in Romanian). Yad Vashem was quick to voice its serious disapproval of this statement.

oameni seriosi, yad vashem presupun ca omul nu a inteles bine si ii repeta cifrele despre care tocmai discutasera cu ocazia condamnarii holocaustului

17.06.2003 – razvan theodorescu: „Romanian Minister of Culture and the Denominations Razvan Theodorescu supported his government’s statement, claiming there had been no Holocaust within the borders of wartime Romania.”

in dialectica reconcilierii dupa iliescu apare si suportul teoretic

yad vashem: Yad Vashem responded by sending a strongly worded letter to then Romanian Education Minister Ecaterina Andronescu. In the letter, Avner Shalev, Chairman of the Directorate of Yad Vashem, maintained that the statement made by the Romanian government was a historical falsity. “If Germany were to have made a distinction similar to that of the Romanian government, it could easily claim that there was no Holocaust in Germany, since the German Jews were systematically killed only once they were deported to the death camps in Eastern Europe.”

yad vashem incearca o noua strategie, cunoscuta in spatiul intracarpatic drept „explicatie ca la prosti”

29.06.2003 – ambasadorul romaniei: On 29 June, following Shalev’s letter, Romania’s Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Valeria Mariana Stoica, and State Secretary in the Ministry of Culture and the Denominations, Ion Antonescu, visited Yad Vashem. In a meeting with Shalev, the ambassador reported that she had spoken with Romanian Prime Minister Adrian Năstase, who had reiterated his personal acknowledgement of the historical facts regarding the murder of Romanian Jews during the Holocaust. Prime Minister Năstase had said he would investigate who was responsible for releasing the statement denying that the Holocaust took place in Romania, a statement that—according to the ambassador—was erroneous.

o noua treapta dialectica – intra in scena activistul alunecos; in varianta populara: nu te pui cu prostul, te duci la el, zici ca el si promiti masuri

25.07.2003 – iliescu, interviu in Ha’aretz: “The Holocaust was not unique to the Jewish population in Europe. Many others were killed in the same manner, including Poles,” Iliescu said. He absolved the Romanian people from any responsibility for the murder of Jews that took place in Romania during WWII, adding: “In Romania under the Nazis, Jews and Communists were treated equally.”

umanistul revolutionar iliescu nu e multumit de solutie, nastase a fost moale; scoate artileria grea din manualul komintern: schimbi definitia holocaustului si te avinti in lupta dreapta cu noul hitlerism oriunde s-ar afla; si apropo, el insusi a fost ilegalist pe acea vreme, nu ar putea primi certificat de surviver?

yad vashem: Following this interview, Yad Vashem reached the conclusion that Holocaust denial in Romania is a deeply rooted phenomenon. A simple condemnation would no longer suffice; some form of action was needed to end Romanian ignorance of the facts, and attempts to avoid responsibility. This time, Avner Shalev wrote to the Romanian president, inviting him to establish a commission of historians “so that together we can investigate the historical truth and publish the facts regarding Holocaust-related events in Romania.” In his letter, Shalev proposed that the commission include Romanian Holocaust experts, and utilize Romanian and German archival documents, survivor testimony, and Eastern European Holocaust research.

au priceput in cele din urma cu cine vorbesc; istetimea lor proverbiala i-a cam facut de rusine in fata dialecticii;

22.10.2003 – iliescu: President Iliescu officially announced the establishment of an International Historical Commission of Enquiry into the murder of Romania’s Jews, to be headed by Nobel Laureate and Vice Chairman of the Yad Vashem Council, Professor Elie Wiesel.

iliescu n-are de ales, trebuie sa-i dea dreptate lui nastase; la externe, cu entitati conflictuale, care se cantoneaza in trecut si nu apreciaza inaltele idealuri de reconciliere, poate ar trebui adaptat putin manualul komintern la noile realitati pentru a nu periclita aderarea la uniunea republicilor europene si euroatlantice

noiembrie, seminar Yad Vashem – After the seminar, three participants—members of the Social-Democratic party (to which President Iliescu belongs)—sent a letter of thanks: “We came to Yad Vashem in order to discover the truth. After hearing the lectures and testimony from survivors, and after seeing the maps and official documents, we became convinced of the historical truth… We must be accountable for our history, both the good and the bad. The Holocaust in Romania was horrific and we are not proud of what happened… We hope you are convinced of our honest and genuine intention to assume responsibility and serve as young ambassadors for the message of peace and friendship.”

noile directive sint insusite si puse in practica la toate nivelurile; intre timp, in tara se pun piedici, se intirzie aprobari, etc

11.11.2004 raportul comisiei Wiesel:
Numărul evreilor români şi al evreilor din teritoriile aflate sub administraţie românească ucişi în timpul Holocaustului nu a putut fi stabilit cu precizie absolută. Dar concluzia Comisiei în acest sens este că în timpul Holocaustului în România şi în teritoriile aflate sub controlul său au fost ucişi sau au murit între 280.000 şi 380.000 de evrei români şi ucraineni. În Holocaust au pierit şi aproximativ 135.000 de evrei români care trăiau în Transilvania de nord sub conducere maghiară, precum şi 5.000 de evrei români care se aflau atunci în alte ţări din Europa.
Referindu-se la România, Raul Hilberg a afirmat că „nici o ţară, în afara Germaniei, nu s-a implicat în masacrarea evreilor la o asemenea scară.”

daca facem adunarea pe varianta minimala obtinem exact cifrele initiale…

nu mai ramine de indeplinit decit obligatia pe care statul roman si-a asumat-o, de diseminare a informatiei in societate in general si in sistemul educational in special; si poate niste scuze



berlin 38, jerusalem

קליפ תותח של תומר יוסף. השיר נקרא „אל תטוסי”
ma rog, e vorba de tomer yosef si e popular la ei in zilele noastre 🙂